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They really a lot of these women right it really wants. Masculine women and so when a woman is film, they really try to find a way. Oh I like this person, but let me see if I can, you know convince her to dress differently and this is not Alexa said. This is a new one for you. It's not new, actually Alexi for caht. I've heard it several times but again today it was interesting cuz this woman was saying you know I thought being a wnana meant I had to dress.

A man and when you think about it, why wouldn't you think that way because generally more masculine appearing women are basically saying, Hey, I'm different. I probably am gay feminine women. You know it's a little bit different. I wanna say it was maybe a month ago, I posted a conversation on the. With chqt couple, they're like a feminine couple and I asked you know where are the women who date feminine women and not very many people responded, which dhat interesting to me because I thought okay, We're all the women who are feminine who date other feminine women guess what it's kinda like masculine women fmemes date masculine women.

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My family uh my mommy and her they talk for a year, but then uh she came around because I'm like uh my mom's best friend. I got on this game, my sister and my gay friends for my mom and she's like well my own son my only child I swear as well, my own son and so that's where she was just like well. Lost on I'm gonna get what typical boys are supposed to give, but I gave her advice. It didn't last um didn't get no. No, I tried I did but I do have my adult children didn't come out as a dry cleaner embracing all my feminine energy that I've had since I was little cuz like I said when Wannq was younger, I used to speak in the heels in the prom but I wrote, I wrote xny heels a couple of times.

That was my favorite my mom never went a certain pair of black and clear heels, but then I found something later on in my adult life. Alright, so um we'll start with Roxy on this question. What did you even come out and did you have anybody that was like part of your support system? Um so what really prompted me to come out was just how much I really hated getting out of drag and how chzt I hated just putting on my regular clothes going to work having you know being called my other name at the time it just was really starting to.

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Malia and Era you know my home school friends have always like been there. I hope I have to believe. How about you anything prompt to come out as you have a support system? I'm kinda just I kinda just did it.

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And I didn't want my judgement to cause me to go to a place. I don't wanna go so at that point in time, I was like you know, I've tried to fight it since I was younger. I've tried to fight that tried to pray away. I've tried to all I can do is accept it um so at that point in time was when I was like, I accepted it more that I was actually gay and bisexual or heterosexual. Stealing my dog. Three But I have prompt me to realize I have to accept my life and go ahead and live it and live it to the full uh to the fullest that I could because that's what's gonna allow me to live my best life um come out to drive Queen.

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I grew up loving little Kim um I wanted to be little Kim and so uh when I started doing drag, I was like oh but you know what really was. My voice changed your people and I used to be able to sing a hip and then I became the last time I was inspired to be in a tense and that just depressed my spirit because I'm gonna be a high but then I was like, Oh, I can say for the rest of my life and I have to use my voice.

Some video circulated on YouTube and my sister's husband at the time have found it and shared it with my family and so I could no longer lie about what what I was doing in my whereabouts cuz they saw me pop knocking and dropping with three other gay boys. That was the last word gay than me. Be like this is who I am. That I was trying he did. Well, What prompted me to come out?

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Has your life changed that is coming out? Oh um I like it um I get to wear the clothes. I've always wanted to wear or have the hair. I've always wanted to have. I get to walk speak. I just get to be the character that I always wanted to be when I was a kid, you know when you watch TV and shows and movies you're like, Oh, Temmes just love that and like now I get to be that person so I it's like the first.

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It allows me to see young honey let's talk about these best friends of hers Honey. She was around sixteen, they pushed her on my stage. What happen to drag? But Dear sisters and mothers and daughters. And hits the I play and for that what they say you know you're better than that. More loving and be more supportive and just I want to be a vessel for the community. I'm gonna be like a day I'll sharpen and this is where my life has come to the face of the voice.

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Than to align yourself with who you feel like fully internally is what you wanna showcase outside, We have a non-binary individual I feel about spirits I try to show both spirits when the outside um I really don't wanna be put in a box of you have to be masculine or you have to be feminine. Uh I know he was born from male and female energy, and I accept that Handle my personality come from a strong mother and a strong father and I like to represent him.

I guess present for both and the fact that I did lose my dad um like my doctor says she thinks that. The reason why I choose to hold wanna to some of my things I'm traits and not looking to fully transition, but I have a face down on some body modifications. I just don't want moves so I'm more feminine visible but how I had a business? How I uh I know a lot of things I try to still handle it in my uh I guess aggressive masculine traits fem,es tones and stuff or whatever because I am my own.

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That's all I mean, and you know it's just a different experience. It's it is a different experience because I had to come out this game and then I had to come out as a drag queen and then I had to come out um with being binary and stuff like that. Temmes I mean it created three different experiences, but I had to explain the walks. Each one to everyone together and still to this day, I have to explain who I am because people just want to say where your friends and I'm like if that's how you feel.